It has been interesting to be asked to do an article about what the old-timers are doing in naturopathic medicine. Overall, I don't feel that different than I did when I first came to Portland at the age of 28 to found the acupuncture program as part of NCNM. That was back in 1981 and I have learned a lot since then. I was so excited to find a medical school that I would attend in addition to starting the acupuncture school, which held my values. The following is some of what